uzts811344  Cote D'Ivoire nevermind - v - Madagascar Eagle Only

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Status Score Points Rating
Lost 0 0 0
0
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2
Status Score Points Rating
Won 2 5 0

relinqq (relinqq) (0)
rezza (rezza) (0)
strykz (0)
zzer (zzer) (0)
Player of the Match
None Voted
(0) anderson (anderson)
(0) Chamonix (Chamonix)
(0) doornroosje (doornroosje)
(0) Gnurkus (Gnurkus)
(0) Zwiebi (zwiebi)

Fixtureuzts811344
GameUrban Terror
EventTS League - Season 8
DivisionDivision 9
Round2
Date07-05-2012 21:00
StatusPlayed
Result entered byCheckmate / 10/05/2012 20:43
xesya / 16/05/2012 16:34
Referee
Admin DecisionYes
Fixture Created25-04-2012 23:38 (eya_allam)
Game Type
Turnpike
(Cote D'Ivoire nevermind)
Turnpike

29 : 7
Austria
(Madagascar Eagle Only)
Austria

19 : 8

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Team POV Location Size (Mb) Download  
Madagascar Eagle Only Gnurkus Multiple 5.34 [ Download ]  
Madagascar Eagle Only Zwiebi Multiple 6.46 [ Download ]  
Madagascar Eagle Only doornroosje Multiple 6.52 [ Download ]  
Madagascar Eagle Only Chamonix Multiple 5.89 [ Download ]  
Madagascar Eagle Only anderson Multiple 5.92 [ Download ]  
Cote D'Ivoire nevermind rezza Multiple 5.66 [ Download ]  
Cote D'Ivoire nevermind zzer Multiple 3.85 [ Download ]  
Cote D'Ivoire nevermind Grubson Multiple 6.93 [ Download ]  
Cote D'Ivoire nevermind strykz Multiple 4.81 [ Download ]  
Cote D'Ivoire nevermind relinqq Multiple 6.56 [ Download ]  

Admin Report:

Forfeit LOSS for nvm, one player failed to provide a demo.

zzer has been suspended from UZ for 7 days, he may not play in that time.




Comments
Mon May 07, 2012 10:00 pm
 


gg <3
Mon May 07, 2012 10:02 pm
 


gg- you guys play very well. Smile
Mon May 07, 2012 10:05 pm
 


gg

zzer pwn score on tp Smile
 
Mon May 07, 2012 10:07 pm
 


gg guys,
and strykz- עשיתי \סאב כפרע !! :DD
 
Mon May 07, 2012 10:54 pm
 


Please don't forget your demos, zzer. :>
Mon May 07, 2012 10:54 pm
 


gg guys
Wed May 16, 2012 4:46 pm
 


this shit is ridiculous. SO ITS NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE YOUR INTERNET DC?! WTF IS THIS SHIT? You know well that its impossible to record a demo after u connect to ongoing match with matchmaking on. If not then quit being admins. If you dont believe that he dc'ed not just left then watch other demo lazy asses.


PFFFFFFFFF

no regards

next time I will just reload a match after somebody disconnects
 
Wed May 16, 2012 4:47 pm
 


it is possible, just set up a command or a button
Wed May 16, 2012 4:51 pm
 


well, funny. Because I have a bind for it and it doesnt work. Care to explain that to me? Share some light on those commands because I'm playing this game for 1y and NEVER heard of being able to record your demo after dc.

Who cares anyway, nobody wont do shit because you wont listen to reason.
 
Wed May 16, 2012 4:52 pm
 


that's a smart thing to tell your opponents
 
Wed May 16, 2012 4:53 pm
 


thats smart to be unfair just because the opposite team have like 3 admins in roster. Why else would anybody brag about this after 1 and a half week?
Wed May 16, 2012 4:54 pm
 


And the command is quite simple.
You open console, then /record
Can't be easier.
Wed May 16, 2012 4:54 pm
 


Brejnless, you miss the point.

The missing demo was recorded BEFORE the dc.

It's also possible to record demos with the match being started already, matchmode set and upon reconnect. Press your demo bind twice (e.g. 2x F12).
Same counts for stopping an auto-demo recording.
 
Wed May 16, 2012 4:59 pm
 


Why not have that in rules? Like I said I had no idea thats possible. Tried several times to record a demo on pcw's after I droped out. Didn't work. You can't expect a NEW CLAN to know everything.
Wed May 16, 2012 4:58 pm
 


lold lost at lvl9000 and still wins..2 good phx u 2 good
Wed May 16, 2012 5:00 pm
 


- "brejnless"

thats smart to be unfair just because the opposite team have like 3 admins in roster. Why else would anybody brag about this after 1 and a half week?


Actually, only 1 admin in the roster. the others are refs.

And actually, get your facts straight. We offered to rematch, but the admins decided that we were to follow the rules and give a forfeit.

Also, the missing demo is from BEFORE the dc, not after. So his bind that you claim never worked obviously does work.

Get some facts right before you start bitching, man.
Wed May 16, 2012 5:04 pm
 


I appreciate that you wanted a rematch, I have nothing against you and phx.
Its the rules I have something against. A piece of missing demo is not such a big deal, I just don't get it. If you think he hacks just let him play with UAC or however its called. I'm bitching cuz I'm mad, obvious isn't it? ; o Our goal just got butchered because of one shitty demo, wouldn't you be angry as well?
 
Wed May 16, 2012 5:08 pm
 


Well, that's one misunderstanding out of the way then.

I would be angry, but to be honest, the rules have been in place for at least the past 5 seasons. If you have someone to be mad at it would be the team mate who spoiled your chances. (which if I'm not mistaken are still very well posible if you win vs jaw)

I'm sorry that it had to go the way it did, mate.
Wed May 16, 2012 5:08 pm
 


Brejn, what you need to understand is that they are the rules. Regardless of whether yourself and the rest of your team think its right or not. The rules state that all demo's must be uploaded after the match has been completed. The case may be that he has lost his demo, and im afraid that if that is the case you will just have to take it on the chin and get on with the rest of your season. There is no need to get mad at others down to your teams incapability to keep their demos 'Safe'
Wed May 16, 2012 5:10 pm
 


This stuff is so lollous Smile

The guy who doesnt know how to record a demo claiming it's impossible to do it if you join after the teams readied up.
Then it's discovered that the missing part is BEFORE the CI.

This should end in the epic fail section if there's one...

But ofc it's all about admin/refs power... So lol... Smile
Wed May 16, 2012 5:14 pm
 


You got one thing wrong. The only one I should be mad at is me. If I would play for him, perhaps non of this would've happened. We tried to help him find the missing demo which should be recorded. But we failed at it. I don't know if thats due to his poor eng/computer skills or due to the game being retarded. But I would never blame a guy that I trust. Doorn, we know. But we wanted to win this 7:0 : P Thats out of the window now.
Wed May 16, 2012 5:18 pm
 


Then win it 6-1?
Wed May 16, 2012 5:29 pm
 


I just want to know 1 thing, why is there a lot of matches where the player haven't uploaded the demo but still won the game or draw it. Also why the admins don't do something about it. In this case lets say half of the demo is missing from our match and in some other matches i saw the teams that uploaded only 3 or 4 demos but there was no forfeit I just don't understand why. Could you please explain it to me ?
Wed May 16, 2012 5:32 pm
 


because they like to use dat admin power Grubson that's
bet if they would of won no demo would of been requested. But hey we aint mad at ya UZ
Wed May 16, 2012 5:37 pm
 


- "primevil"

Brejn, what you need to understand is that they are the rules. Regardless of whether yourself and the rest of your team think its right or not. The rules state that all demo's must be uploaded after the match has been completed. The case may be that he has lost his demo, and im afraid that if that is the case you will just have to take it on the chin and get on with the rest of your season. There is no need to get mad at others down to your teams incapability to keep their demos 'Safe'


totally right and a great statement. another fact i dont get though is, that on our match (div 9!) from a clan, which played almost 80 matches in UZ and never failed with the demo section, such crap happens. There are so many fixtures of completely missing demos --- what about them?! There are two options follow the rules - or not, but the sword of destiny hit that match, weird.

Im just saying, dont wanna insult anyone and appreciate the work admins/refs put into this competition.

cheers


btw. @alexdenton: if u dont know whats going on better be quit, instead of posting some useless not funny comments, ty
Wed May 16, 2012 5:47 pm
 


Because people dont raise the issue with the demo's. If a team was to raise the issue with the refs/admins then something would be done about it. But unless someone has an issue with it why waste time worrying about it?
Wed May 16, 2012 5:59 pm
 


prime, rules are rules we've been told and it says "Players are given two possibilities: they can choose to play with UAC3 or upload demos after each and every match in the Media part of the match menu" (Point 11 TS rules)..."In case UAC3 fails during the match, the player is required to upload his/her demo." So if sb. raises a match or not, uploading is required - that's what it says
Wed May 16, 2012 6:03 pm
 


What im saying is that if no demo is requested, why would there be any need to check it?
Wed May 16, 2012 6:05 pm
 


yeye i understand, but u know as i said we have been told there are rules, which need to be followed, so...

but lets just stop this discussion, bc it doesnt fix anything right here...
Wed May 16, 2012 7:01 pm
 


Yea and why would u ban our player now? He should be banned right after the match not now when the time would have passed and we now we have different match upcoming and he cant play. And what about different clans that haven't uploaded their demos even in our div? Cmon, something is wrong here. And I searched for zzer's demo myself using vnc like program. The both of us searched all demos from that particular day, we have founded one demo in hidden folder which was 2vs2. I know you wont, but trust me. This demo is not saved on his pc.
Wed May 16, 2012 7:40 pm
 


11.A UAC3, Demos, and Screenshots
Players are given two possibilities: they can choose to play with UAC3 or "upload demos after each and every match" in the Media part of the match menu. ALL players must record demos, regardless of UAC3. Players who decide to use UAC3 must enter their UAC3 ID in their player profile in this website. In case UAC3 fails during the match, the player is required to upload his/her demo. Demos of players using UAC3 are to be made available for download upon request by staff or opponent. Every player must automatically take screenshots throughout the match. Player screenshots are to be made available for download upon admin request.
Or are they wrong O_o?."upload demos after each and every match" it's there but its not even being enforced on every match, only on nvm?
where is the fairness?

These are some not even half of the fixtures that need some fixing aswell

www.urban-zone.org/ind...ture=11315
www.urban-zone.org/ind...ture=11015
www.urban-zone.org/ind...ture=11013
www.urban-zone.org/ind...ture=11316
www.urban-zone.org/ind...ture=11231
www.urban-zone.org/ind...ture=11257
www.urban-zone.org/ind...xture=9994
www.urban-zone.org/ind...ture=11145
www.urban-zone.org/ind...ture=11177
www.urban-zone.org/ind...ture=11149
www.urban-zone.org/ind...ture=11115
www.urban-zone.org/ind...ture=11146
Thu May 17, 2012 11:48 am
 


www.urban-zone.org/ind...ture=11257

The same thing DID happen actually. As you can see at the toip, a forfeit win was awarded, and for the match after I made sure KORS did not play. :>
Thu May 17, 2012 4:05 pm
 


broken link
Thu May 17, 2012 4:06 pm
 


still doesn't asnwer any of the questions above?

You know that this is bullshit. You didn't complain about the match so one piece of a demo shouldn't be a problem. I would understand that if u would call him a hacker or smth. Fair fight was said and now this crap. And if you wanted a rematch then why would admins stop you? If both sides agrees to it shouldn't it be "legal"? I smell hate.
Thu May 17, 2012 6:18 pm
 


Also agree that rematch should be played... it's probably the best solution for this crap and also you said that we can still win the division but actually if we win all the other matches and the jaw win all apart from us they will still get 1 point more because forfeit gives us 0 points and the lose would actually give 1 point .....
Thu May 17, 2012 7:46 pm
 


Fair enough if you don't believe us. I've said everything I wanted from a clanleaders perspective.

As a part of the referee team I'm just saying you're far from alone and it's nothing to do with hate. But whatever. :>
Thu May 17, 2012 8:01 pm
 


wow UZ suck. And all admins here are a piece of shit !
Thu May 17, 2012 10:03 pm
 


I know I might have sounded like I didn't fully believe what u wrote earlier, but I meant the admins.
Thu May 17, 2012 10:05 pm
 


You just CANT ignore bean's commant since its 100% true,he gave you more then 5 matches that the players there didnt respected the rules by not uploading demos,playing with the wrong nicks and there wasnt any admins intervention !
so why here? ?
This is just unfair since there is more then 10 matches that the players ingnored the rules and they still won even when they didnt listen to the rules.
Dont you think something here is wrong? that this specific match was forfeit for something that unfortently i couldnt control on?+you suspended me couple days after wich is todaly bs in my opinion.
Before telling me what i did wrong with my demo you need to get that something here is fucked and unfair.what do i need to do to prove you guys that it was technical problem and not human mistake?
Think about that commant and realise how unfair is that.
Thu May 17, 2012 10:38 pm
 


Why can't we just play a rematch which would be fair thing to do and also both teams agreed on it..
Fri May 18, 2012 12:55 am
 


Well, before you start blaming the whole staff, let me help you understand the rules.

All demos must be provided after completion of the match through the match media section and tagged with the proper player name. In case a player fails to upload a demo, he or she is obligated to provide the demo within 7 days of being notified by league staff. Players are required to store their match demos till two weeks after the completion of the season


This means, that you have to upload your demo. But in case you are not doing that, and no one raises a question, you can get away with it. If your opponent asks for it, or a ref notices that it is missing, he/she can decide to ask for it, than you have 7 days to comply. If you fail to upload it, your team will have to forfeit the match, and you will be suspended.

Doornroosje (league staff) asked for your demo after the match, because as you said - we have quite a few staff members on our team, therefor we like to keep things clean and to play by the rules.
You failed to upload your missing demo within 7 days, and as a result your team had to forfeit the match.

I saw, that one of the match that bean linked had been forfeited and if the participants of the other matches would decide to query an admin or ref about missing demos, it would be dealt with.
Sun Jun 03, 2012 2:35 am
 


- "rezza"

btw. @alexdenton: if u dont know whats going on better be quit, instead of posting some useless not funny comments, ty


Shame I didn't read it before.
I think we're not under a rezza-regime yet. So I do think I'll keep commenting everything I want to. Also, I happened to know the facts.

This told I gotta say phx wanted to reschedule at the first place, but rules are rules and there's no possibility to overcome them, even if teams agrees on a rematch. That's why you had the forfaitloss.

We can't blame the staff couse they did their job, it's silly.
You can't justify your behavior by saying "Anyone else does the same", you should be sure you follow the rules, what the other teams do is just not your business.

Zwiebi kindly explained you the same thing.
Fri Jun 29, 2012 2:18 pm
 


the point is, i doesnt give a s*** about this here anymore, bc we proved how wrong u always are since 3 seasons to put us in low divs. anyway gg still being first with a forfeit loss...

on the other hand, its sad how so many guys cant get the point from the posts of #nvm.... hf searching and thinking about it. fairness ftw

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