Owl team has contacted me about their availability, we are still working on an agreement.

Ok we obviously can't reach an agreement. I've been talking about this for hours today. Owls can play mon - wed , pir8 cna play thu - sun. Seeing no other options (we tried some things which are much appreciated) we deceided to postpone untill further notice. On pir8's request we will not try to play it next week because of their busy schedule. We will manage to play this game in a later match week since both teams are not interested in the forfait win.

true story
since this will probably be one of the most important matches in our division, we both decided this match needs to be played. we'll keep on trying to find a date suitable for both of us.

We're not willing to postpone this match. Next week and the following we have a shit ton of reschedules, some of our players have 11 cw's next week, it's just insane. We'll have to try to reschedule some of those already to the following week.

We tried our best to field 5 on owls' days (mon - wed), unfortunately we're unable to do so. Besides, that's exactly what I told them even before the match was accepted (last week), so it shouldn't be surprising for them.

We offer thursday to sunday, any day. I don't believe a team is unable to get 5 for an entire weekend.

It's already sort of impossible for us to get all reschedules played, therefore we most likely have to forfeit a cb match to play uz. At some point you have to change the order of priorities.

It's this week or never.

Yeah, I saw you trying your best - changing mind for like 5 times whether the match will be played or not after we've announced what map we're going to play.

I feel sad for your players who have to play 11 cws a week. Playing in different clan for each game mode sucks.

And yes, we sadly can't field 5 on the weekend - I'm not sure I will be available, and couple of our players won't be here at all. I don't believe a team is unable to get 5 for monday-wednesday while having 13 active players on the roster.

So if you refuse to reschedule the match till a later date, even though cb finishes earlier than uz, then take the forfeit!

Just to clarify, you never announced a map change. Your tactic was to change it last minute, a team you pcw'd against told me you will do that, at that point you admitted it.

Yes, we do have players who play in some gametypes with other teams, I don't see anything wrong with that. We don't sign up for a league/gametype, if we don't have enough players to participate properly.

This match isn't being played where one team doesn't have their full line-up. We'll play this match whenever we both have a lineup, even if it's towards the end of the season.

First you guys said you could get 5 on monday, so we gather 5, then u say u don't got anymore, no problem, then we said tuesday and it was fine and now it's not possible anymore?
take the forfeit then, because this annoying forfeit hunting thing is pissing me off, and i don't want begin a fight either with you guys but comon <.<
I've sacrificed some stuff today to play against you guys, same for yesterday and now were not even playing, it just drives me mad

Tuesday was never a day that was available for us, And I'm sure that was made clear by Xesya multiple times. Regarding yesterday i was more pissed than anyone else that this match was cancelled. Wednesday is possible for myself, As is Thursday, but i do not believe we can field 5 on either of those days, Therefore the match will be forced to Sunday and we will play it then.

Then go for the forfeit, believe it or not but we can't get 5 in the weekend, like gnurkus made clear mo-wed were the best days, but unfortunately u can't field 5 then.

- "gink0"

I don't believe a team is unable to get 5 for monday-wednesday while having 13 active players on the roster.

Just to clarify, of those 13 that are set as active, the reality is that only 7 of them are active, therefore fielding 5 on those particular days are not so simple.

I wouldn't cancel anything for the match on sunday if I were you. There won't be 5 owls to play.

If you dont want to schedule further in the season, take the forfeit. It seems you already made up your mind, anyway.

- "xesya"

We're not willing to postpone this match.
...
We tried our best to field 5 on owls' days (mon - wed), unfortunately we're unable to do so.

IRC log from Monday:

[17:58] <Xesya> g1nk0
[18:00] <Xesya> g1nk0 Gnurkus nexxis` thuq
[18:00] <Xesya> we have 5 today
[18:00] <@thuq> nice!
[18:00] <@thuq> xesya
[18:00] <Xesya> @ 22h we are ready to play


So, where do I sign up for that forfeit victory?


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Ofc I'm just trolling, but please stop running around and claiming that in 1.5 months, you are only able to play for 50 minutes on this Sunday and no other date.

If you want to cry about how many matches do you have (not that many, unless you count pcw-s), or how you don't want to take forfeits (unless it is easy), what maps are we playing, what server are we playing on, or how many active players do you actually have - please keep it for yourself.

Also, please try not to think too much about forfeits, those easy 5 points are sooo tempting, I know, but we are here to play matches.

We have time until the end of the season + usually 2-3 days extra, to play this match, it you want to make it happen contact the leader or the trustee of the opposing team in a private message and we will work out something.

Like i said, As much as you say we have that much time to play it. Logically it goes against the rules of UZ and the morales of everyone involved. Considering nobody else gets this option to postpone matches to two weeks in the future, why should you be given that luxury. The forced match will be Sunday at 21CET. Find 5.

I see your nicely worded attempt, but unfortunately I have to inform you that your lack of knowledge of the rules ruined it for me.

,,Teams are allowed to reschedule a forced match BEFORE the forced match time for the forced week or the following week and may seek approval for a reschedule from staff if they reach an agreement past the forced match time."

Close, but no cigar.

And the reaching of the agreement past the forced match time seems to be the issue here right? So simple put, Play on the forced time.

I see, so you don't have any intention to play this match. Let me guess, you already deleted the game and you aim for the "I will win the tournament without actually playing in it award".

Bad news:

,,Staff have the right to use their discretion in solving scheduling conflicts and may force matches or order rescheduling in case they find one or both opponents acting against principles of good faith when scheduling."

And to help you out:

http://www.iourt.com/files/UrbanTerror411.exe

Actually you are wrong. we have all the intentions in the world to play this match THIS WEEK. We plan on playing it in the week it was intended and not after, due to a lot of reschedules, and generally not wanting to create any more. If you can offer us a time and a date from now to Sunday we will happily play it. If not we will put out a team of 5 at the forced time on this coming Sunday.

I might be wrong, but I don't see the match forced. Scroll up and check it for me please, it might be my age.

Also, read my previous post. Than read it again. And again for a few more times. If you understood everything properly, comment again.

Hum, I'm perfectly aware of the rules. Your quote isn't relevant, what counts is this:

Using the website scheduler is considered as decisive evidence and the match will be forced to the last known proposed date and time preceding the deadline. In case there is a conflict between the teams regarding scheduling, the teams are to contact their division supervisor or another staff member before the scheduling deadline.

However, doesn't matter, just thought I'd clear that up.

Not sure what you are clearing up here tbh. Do you really think that we need more UZ staff members involved here or what? I'll explain how it works again.

If non of the teams schedule the match, we force it to the standard time
If one of the teams schedules the match (and be aware scheduling is also talking to the opponent not only using the schedule system) we force it to this one time
if both teams tried to schedule the match we give them time to reach an agreement. In the end they always do.

In this case, the last thing happened we talked about it, being available on sunday is not in the UZ rules, as long as teams are available at 2 or more times in the week we see this as being available enough.

And let's be honosut, do you REALLY believe that if owls used the scheduler on the matchpage that we would have reached an agreement by now? Clearly the same result would ahve come out. If we can't agree without scheduler, we can't agree with it.

Like I said, As much as you say that we should find 5. We don't have them. So take your forfeit, as it's all you seem to have in mind.

k

gg

UZ Points > Playing a game for fun... right?

Right!

Shame. Enjoy your well deserved 5 points!

Thanks for the congratulations

We'll be trying to reschedule....

Someone abused rights to set this match to un-accepted.

I am an owl and as such might be considered partial but truth be told, I have nothing to do with the TS boys or their silly game. TS pffffffffffffffff… CTF FTW!!! ;D

I just find it sad that UrT seems to have gone from being a game to being a reality soap, where people seem to be more interested in bickering, bitching, complaining, insulting and lying than to actually playing the game together with friends and having a great time doing so.

We are all aware of the fact that the UrT player base is decreasing at an alarming rate and these are the days when we need to pull together, to support each other, to act as a community and not act like small children on the playground throwing sand at each other.

Points! Points everywhere!

k

As what i have heard from g1nk0 it was totally different, also no one abused his rights whatsoever to un-accept the match, either show it black on white or you stop accusing because this is lame, and yeah we know pirates and owls aren't the best mates, but this all shouldn't of happened.
I've heard u can field 5 tonight, we're working on it, we'll query you if we got 5.
I just hope we can play this match, without any ragey comments, no insults, etc.

I will just quote yourself on this one:

- "xesya"

Owl team has contacted me about their availability, we are still working on an agreement.

It's the first post in this topoic and it's from sunday evening. Maybe it was not early in last week but it was before deadline for sure. And let me say this for the 1000th time. Do you really think that if we used the scheduler that we reached an agreement by now? For sure?

I have no idea who unaccpeted or who accepted it (no massage that it's forced) but the website is kinda irrelevant if both teams tried so it was not much use anyway.

And yes I understand that stuff happened in the past but that should have nothing to do with this.

- "xesya"

Your team always treated us like shit. Starts off with several 4v5's in summer cup when we suddenly didn't have 5, we never played 5v4.

I went through all of our SC matches just for you. There were 1 occasion where you had only 4. And for this very reason, we played 4v4.
There are no screens, but if I remember correctly, there was one match, where one of your players dropped out, and we played 5v4 for 2 or maybe 3 rounds, because we couldn't figure out which of our players should disconnect.
Still, thanks for the accusations.

- "xesya"

Facts on the match:
>nobody has contacted me about scheduling in the appropriate week
>Gnurkus contacted me on monday, after the match was forced

- "xesya"

xesya SUNDAY October 21, 2012 (22:54)QuoteReply
Owl team has contacted me about their availability, we are still working on an agreement.

Thank you for your always accurate facts.

- "xesya"

Your team is obviously unable to schedule a match properly and that causes disadvantages for us. By now we offer 5 of 7 days to play in this week, that's all we can do.

What do you mean by unable to schedule properly? You agreed on Monday, than bailed on us. Then you proposed Tuesday, and you bailed on us again.
You then ruled out Wednesday and asked for a forfeit on Sunday.

If you want extra dates: I am willing you to offer forfeit losses for your team last week, this Monday or whenever you want. I hope you like my idea. Because this is what are you doing.

- "xesya"

We're trying to reschedule, because we are better than you. You truly don't deserve it.

Mmmmm, key...

Zwiebi you have nothing to say here. Even if you bring all the 100 lowbrains you have in this team here, you can't drown me by your number.

We're offering to play tonight, get your shit together.

Provide logs where someone told me you aren't available this weekend or stfu.

Monday, early evening. Xesya says pir8 are ready to play.
Monday, later in the evening. pir8 can't field 5.
Monday, night. pir8 are avi to play on Tuesday.
Tuesday. pir8 can't field 5.
Wednesday, early evening. pir8 are ready to play.

I find it..amusing.

- "xesya"

Your team always treated us like shit. Starts off with several 4v5's in summer cup when we suddenly didn't have 5, we never played 5v4. Apart from that we expirienced insults towards us on our previous match fixtures, even this season.

Proof?

- "xesya"

Facts on the match:
>nobody has contacted me about scheduling in the appropriate week

Proof?

- "xesya"

>nobody used the website scheduling system

Proof?

- "xesya"

>Gnurkus contacted me on monday, after the match was forced

Proof?

- "xesya"

>someone of your team abused his rights to set this to un-accepted

Proof?

- "xesya"

Your team is obviously unable to schedule a match properly and that causes disadvantages for us. By now we offer 5 of 7 days to play in this week, that's all we can do.

5 out of 7? And then you will suddenly realize you don't have enough again, right?

- "xesya"

Apart from that I dealt with your leader already. What do you think did I get when I was in a similar situation?
This:

- "gink0"

It's all your fault xesya. YOU didn't manage to get on site and reschedule it.
We've scheduled it on the time best suitable for us; KronoZ let you know that we can play next satuday as well. Now this was the time YOU had to open your browser, get on the site and use scheduling system.
Why should we do your job for you? Admin saw the only date proposed and forced the match to it.
Did we have to reach admin and talk to him that our opponents probably can't play that day? Again, it was YOUR job.
I don't see ANY bad behavior from our side and once again, I don't understand all the freaking stupidity going on here.
You were too lazy to press few buttons to play in semis? Our default proposition was left there and we thought you could do reschedule, why should we do it, huh? Maybe you found your 5 men on saturday? Your fault Xesya, not ours. Got it?

Lol, butthurt much? I don't want to start this all over again, but yeah, just want to mention that it was
a) the other team
b) the other season
c) the other league
d) YOUR MISTAKE. GET OVER IT!

- "xesya"

We're trying to reschedule, because we are better than you. You truly don't deserve it.

Lol.

- "xesya"

Zwiebi you have nothing to say here. Even if you bring all the 100 lowbrains you have in this team here, you can't drown me by your number.

We're offering to play tonight, get your shit together.

Provide logs where someone told me you aren't available this weekend or stfu.

I thank you for the compliment, i love being called a lowbrain

Right, can everyone stop sparking up arguments again? I've been through this already.

- "xesya"

Zwiebi you have nothing to say here. Even if you bring all the 100 lowbrains you have in this team here, you can't drown me by your number.

We're offering to play tonight, get your shit together.

Provide logs where someone told me you aren't available this weekend or stfu.

Is this the first comment after you've stopped being a ref? Shows your real nature,

- "xesya"

broski

You guys are just a bunch of faggots. Everyone who's in this team, with no exception.

Maybe in soviet russia it's different, but in the civilized world you have to provide proofs that something HAPPENED and not that something didn't happen.

Get 5 tonight and stfu.

Thanks Xesya. :/

Okay, with no exception might be a bit too harsh

Sorry, don't really know how it all goes in civilized turkey.

lol where is soviet russia an where is pir8 lol

- "xesya"

You guys are just a bunch of faggots. Everyone who's in this team, with no exception.

Maybe in soviet russia it's different, but in the civilized world you have to provide proofs that something HAPPENED and not that something didn't happen.

Get 5 tonight and stfu.

aww the word faggot , so cute
xesya faggot level 10/10

Thug please be quiet. Your a child, I'm sure im correct in saying you once threatened to burn Xesya's house down right?
[17:51] <thug> Because me and q will burn his house down in oktober
There are many other wonderful quotes from your mature self - For example -
[18:00] <thug> fuk xesya
[18:00] <thug> fuking turk has to make kebaba

And one of my favourites -
[18:14] <thug> lol man i know smiez for long time, he told me would play ATLEAST one season
[18:14] <thug> and he's going to see how the season goes and then he MIGHT stay
[18:17] <thug> Man i know smiez more than everyone here on UrT if he has got something to hide he would tell me thanks for the info though <.<

You know smiez REALLY WELL JAJAJAJA

So do you have anything else to add? I mean your sitting here saying shit like "Aww the word faggot"

Im sure the word faggot is more acceptable in society then saying you will burn someones house down right?

You're*, and where did you come from, and btw, says the one trying to fall in love with girls on the internet, showing your six-pack not even close to one but k.
Now your personality would fit the word faggot, and yeah, i love burning down houses. I love the smell afterwards aswell.

GO BACK TO THE NAVY U UNSURE KID, YOU CAN'T DEAL WITH YOUR FEELINGS YOU FEEL HELPLESS SO YOU JOIN THE NAVY, K!

And what does Smiez have to do with this all of the sudden? lol.

maybe go dance and sing this!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=InBXu-iY7cw

Well actually you're wrong on multiple accounts there. First of all you illiterate little child, The navy actually has some requirements to enter, such as an education, unfortunately something that you don't have nor can ever get due to your incapability to develop your brain anymore than that of a small child. Furthermore im not joining the navy because i feel 'helpless' As you choose to put it. If you must know im joining it down to the career prospects once i come out of the navy. Once again something you will know nothing about.

Also it makes me laugh how you failed to comment on the things about smiez? whats up? Butthurt slightly?

Please you "Low Brain". Or as we prefer to call them in the UK "Retarded" child, Don't waste your time commenting on this, because once again it will be a load of shit that you cant even support with a somewhat stable understanding of the subject your talking about.

Furthermore whats wrong with "In the navy"? Its a great song.

- "primevil"

Well actually you're wrong on multiple accounts there. First of all you illiterate little child, The navy actually has some requirements to enter, such as an education, unfortunately something that you don't have nor can ever get due to your incapability to develop your brain anymore than that of a small child. Furthermore im not joining the navy because i feel 'helpless' As you choose to put it. If you must know im joining it down to the career prospects once i come out of the navy. Once again something you will know nothing about.

Also it makes me laugh how you failed to comment on the things about smiez? whats up? Butthurt slightly?

Please you "Low Brain". Or as we prefer to call them in the UK "Retarded" child, Don't waste your time commenting on this, because once again it will be a load of shit that you cant even support with a somewhat stable understanding of the subject your talking about.

Furthermore whats wrong with "In the navy"? Its a great song.

You make me laugh every single time. Apparently you need education now to clean the kitchen in the Navy.

Okay well once again you have done exactly what i said you would. Commenting about things that you have no understanding of.

This is the job i will be doing - www.royalnavy.mod.uk/s...specialist

Which has nothing to do with this job - Which would involve cleaning the kitchen, and actually does require an education - www.royalnavy.mod.uk/s...roles/chef

This is all hella interesting.

tl;dr

We're playing casa

sorry for the amount of suckness I puted in that game : /

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my demo

www.sendspace.com/file...kB82i%2FNw

FUCKYOUKANKERNIGGERS?! (C) Slazick <3

GG guys, tough match.

Childish behaviour from the very beginning, insults, unnecessary tea bagging and gloating at the end. That's a shame, because it was quite a balanced match for the most part.

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my demos, cant upload them at uz media
gg

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gg

See you in bomb......................................................

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Thug well deserved POTM for bitching and failing at doing more than 12 kills in 40 minutes.

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Go pir8 <3 !! Prime is da best !! <333 You are all only jealous dont outvote him

- "mvt-"

Thug well deserved POTM for bitching and failing at doing more than 12 kills in 40 minutes.

LOL? i haven't said anything during match, you play div 8 so mind your own team cowboy.

yet they are still capable of beating you

What about what happened before the match? You have a short-term memory... cowboy?

- "mvt-"

What about what happened before the match? You have a short-term memory... cowboy?

I'll be pleased to play against you in UZ... ah yeah sorry you div 8, now mind your own games, you dirty little pizzabaker.

Oh, but you already did, urban-zone.org/index.p...ture=13028
I told you you had a short-term memory.
edit: There's more where that came from.

quod erat demonstrandum.

I see what u did there ; D

gg

- "Thug"

- "mvt-"

What about what happened before the match? You have a short-term memory... cowboy?

I'll be pleased to play against you in UZ... ah yeah sorry you div 8, now mind your own games, you dirty little pizzabaker.

What the fuck you have against Pizza bakers?
Looking forward to see the demos.

Can someone delete unnecessary comments? Take forever to scroll down and read some comments after match.

Anyway, gg.

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K

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