ncxix24489  France Team France - v - Poland Team Poland

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This fixture has been Wildcarded by France Team France
Status Score Points Rating
Drawn 1 2 0
1
 - 
1
Status Score Points Rating
Drawn 1 2 0

Bender-Moogen (benderitos) (1)
Biddle (Biddle) (7)
Breuxe (breuxe) (2)
Simca (simca) (0)
Zmbiie (zmb) (5)
Player of the Match
BrTk`
(0) arhi (arhi)
(18) BrTk` (brtk)
(0) KJT. (kjt)
(0) splatt (splatt)
(0) szejdi (eventide)

Fixturencxix24489
GameUrban Terror
Event2016 - NationsCup XIX
GroupGroup D
Round2
Date07-02-2016 21:15
StatusPlayed
Fixture edited byBiddle / 08/01/2016 13:00
Biddle / 27/01/2016 15:58
Gost0r / 02/02/2016 04:07
SevenofNine / 07/02/2016 21:06
Gost0r / 08/02/2016 06:47
Result entered byGost0r / 08/02/2016 06:47
Gost0r / 08/02/2016 06:47
Referee
Admin DecisionNo
Fixture Created04-01-2016 21:31 (Biddle)
Game Type
Turnpike
(France Team France)
Turnpike

6 : 8
Tohunga
(Poland Team Poland)
Tohunga

15 : 1

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Team POV Location Size (Mb) Download  
Poland Team Poland splatt Multiple 3.85 [ Download ]  
Poland Team Poland splatt Multiple 3.91 [ Download ]  
Poland Team Poland BrTk` Multiple 6.02 [ Download ]  
Poland Team Poland szejdi Multiple 5.42 [ Download ]  
Poland Team Poland KJT. Multiple 4.84 [ Download ]  
Poland Team Poland arhi Multiple 5.43 [ Download ]  
France Team France Simca Multiple 5.54 [ Download ]  
France Team France Bender-Moogen Multiple 1.78 [ Download ]  
France Team France Bender-Moogen Multiple 1.46 [ Download ]  
France Team France Bender-Moogen Multiple 1.67 [ Download ]  
France Team France Bender-Moogen Multiple 1.84 [ Download ]  
France Team France Bender-Moogen Turnpike 1.84 [ Download ]  
France Team France Bender-Moogen Turnpike 1.67 [ Download ]  
France Team France Bender-Moogen Tohunga 1.67 [ Download ]  
France Team France Bender-Moogen Tohunga 1.78 [ Download ]  
France Team France Breuxe Multiple 4.9 [ Download ]  
France Team France Zmbiie Multiple 5.14 [ Download ]  
France Team France Zmbiie Multiple 0.21 [ Download ]  
France Team France Biddle Multiple 5.77 [ Download ]  
France Team France Biddle Tohunga 1.79 [ Download ]  

France Team France Report:

We pick Turnpike CTF.

We can't be 5 for 31/01. We take our wildcard.



Admin Report:

Poland lost 2nd half of tohunga by forfeit due to using an exploit (Rule 3.6). Additionally, they receive a yellow card for this unsportsmanship behaviour.

Evidence #1 - Evidence #2



Poland Team Poland Report:

Rule 3.6: Map exploits are not allowed for obvious reasons. Trick jumps are allowed unless they give access to an area that could be considered as map exploit. If a player disregards this rule he will be kicked. If it happens a second time, the player will be banned and therefore not be allowed to play the rounds/maps left to play. The national team will then have to play with four players for the duration of the match.

Evidence #3




Comments
Mon Jan 25, 2016 1:40 am
 


Episode III
REVENGE OF THE SITH
War! The Republic is crumbling under attacks by the ruthless Sith Lord, Count Dooku. There are heroes on both sides. Evil is everywhere.
In a stunning move, the fiendish droid leader, General Grievous, has swept into the Republic capital and kidnapped Chancellor Palpatine, leader of the Galactic Senate.
As the Separatist Droid Army attempts to flee the besieged capital with their valuable hostage, two Jedi Knights lead a desperate mission to rescue the captive Chancellor....
Mon Jan 25, 2016 1:44 pm
[ 2 ]
 


Team Poland map is : Tohunga_b8 CTF
Sun Jan 31, 2016 8:35 pm
 


- "Bend"

shoushou mine de rien, ils ont pu enchaรฎnรฉ 3 flag, trรจs rapidement avec ce bug.


Sure thing bud XD
 
Mon Feb 01, 2016 9:07 pm
[ -1 ]
 


MDRRRRRR
Mon Feb 01, 2016 12:56 pm
[ -1 ]
 


sze tardz
sze tardz
Tue Feb 02, 2016 8:00 am
[ -1 ]
 


Brothers
In
Arms.
Fri Feb 05, 2016 11:15 pm
 


this match will be legit af putting shit on fr gl guys hf Smile
Sun Feb 07, 2016 9:36 pm
 


nice game by both teams
Sun Feb 07, 2016 9:59 pm
 


ggwp
Sun Feb 07, 2016 10:00 pm
[ 1 ]
 


kambek jak dลผejzi
Sun Feb 07, 2016 10:02 pm
 


ggs
Sun Feb 07, 2016 10:03 pm
 


wow, awesome tohunga!
Sun Feb 07, 2016 10:08 pm
 


GG guys!
Sun Feb 07, 2016 10:44 pm
[ 1 ]
 


Really exciting match!

GG to both teams.
Sun Feb 07, 2016 11:10 pm
 


gg guys
Mon Feb 08, 2016 12:10 am
[ 1 ]
 


gg
was close, we sucked.
Mon Feb 08, 2016 7:56 am
[ 3 ]
 


gz biddle
Mon Feb 08, 2016 9:05 am
[ 4 ]
 


The only real victim of this decision is NED.
Mon Feb 08, 2016 11:44 am
[ 2 ]
 


A way not to lose \(._.)/
Mon Feb 08, 2016 12:13 pm
[ 1 ]
 


Ahah ! Excellent ! I didn't know this trick would work.
And looking at score, it was a very important flag in the end.
 
Mon Feb 08, 2016 12:41 pm
[ 7 ]
 


nah, it was a full control, we were clearly better Smile
Mon Feb 08, 2016 3:48 pm
[ 2 ]
 


flag should be retaken not the whole half forfeitet
i bet if something like that happend to other team they would not care but ofc its admins team
 
Mon Feb 08, 2016 4:30 pm
 


To be fair, Biddle did not vote/argue on what happened - and I think he's too fair to go that route.

However, I would have liked to (have a) longer discussion on the topic, although I can't say now what the outcome would have been.

Honestly, I would have liked a rematch on Tohunga. It would have been fair to all three teams (FRA, NED, POL). Subtracting the point still leaves a lot of room for speculating on what could have happened (e.g., France pushing stronger, Poland fighting more to get a win etc.).
 
Mon Feb 08, 2016 4:41 pm
 


Either flag should retaken or map should be replayed but where is the logic behind giving a forfeit for this? It just makes no sense in my opinion because this flag was not map deciding or anything. Poland would have won anyway they were the better team on both maps so this is just bullshit
 
Mon Feb 08, 2016 4:50 pm
 


I don't agree with having points/flag captures cancelled, since we cannot really truly guess of what would have happened. Teams did not consider the -1 case when they played (as in they did not expose themselves in order to get the advantage, given that the cap wouldn't have counted).

Exploits are forbidden, but we're fairly vague in the rules on the outcome. It's mainly implied that the final score will be debated, so this actually leaves plenty of leverage in allowing us to seek the best solution.

Considering the relevance of the match, we should have avoided in making the controversial choice. This means, for me, a replay. But it's not just my choice -- I honestly would love to hear from Sotone. Even if it won't change anything.
Mon Feb 08, 2016 4:46 pm
[ 2 ]
 


Why is this action considered as an abuse on that match ? urban-zone.org/index.p...ture=21224 It wasn't there. Why couldn't it be accepted as something "normal" ? And as a "well known abuse", couldn't the admins vote and write in the rules its consequences for the players and the team instead of deciding about the consequences by themselves everytime it happens ?
 
Mon Feb 08, 2016 4:57 pm
 


It was an exploit. That's not really debatable. The fact that it wasn't addressed in the match you linked to is an obvious error, and I apologize for that.

In both cases, admins must (or should have) react. The penalty is debatable in NC rules, though.
Mon Feb 08, 2016 5:11 pm
 


well...

see you all next year I guess
 
Mon Feb 08, 2016 6:11 pm
[ 2 ]
 


3 teams advance from every group or did they change something?
If thats not the case, I would not accept the decision and I would really like a statement on what is considered an exploit or not. Is shotting someone through pilldoor cause they stand too close to it an exploit? Is returning! the flag through the fence (i think it even happened in the game) an exploit? Or all of these just map features...
 
Mon Feb 08, 2016 6:23 pm
[ 2 ]
 


After all, it is possible to have the flag given through fence, between planks ! Very Happy
We could see this as good teamplay.
 
Mon Feb 08, 2016 7:58 pm
 


You're still advancing to the next stage, Vogg. It's top 3 from every group, not top 2 (which I also assumed first :))
Mon Feb 08, 2016 10:42 pm
 


Sooo how bad is this for nl ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚
 
Tue Feb 09, 2016 7:20 am
 


Something between very little and nothing at all.

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