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Suggestion : D1 Cup using GSL style

Suggestion : D1 Cup using GSL style

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 5:52 pm
Author: Sasuke Location: Paris
Hey !
I got a suggestion for the organisation of the D1 cups in the UZ leagues in TS/CTF/BM.
Actually, we have a main problem : a lot of matchs are not played because of lack of interest. Many teams also dropped after their first match lost, because there are only a few chance they manage to qualify. We have also things that happen quite a lot : once the team is qualified because they have won their first 2 matchs, they don't play their last match or don't play it seriously, which means sometimes the team who qualified is just because of luck in scheduling.
What I want to propose is a different organisation of the matchs that give much more interests in both the teams who play and the potentiel players who want to watch the maps threw GTV. This is the groupstages system that was used first in the GSL league for Starcraft. Nowadays, most of majors competitions in every type of gaming use it as well.

Here is that system : instead of having a classic group of 4 team who battle each other, the group of 4 teams is transformed into a Double Bracket elimination tree. In details, that's how it look like :

The seed are a reference to how the teams were placed in the groups : Seed 1 is the supposed best team of the groupe, when seed4 is the supposed lowest.

Week 1 :
Match 1 : Seed 1 Team vs Seed 4 team
Match 2 : Seed 2 Team vs Seed 3 team

Week 2 :
Match 3 : Match 1 Winner vs Match 2 Winner : the winner of this match is qualified for the playoffs (it's the actual equivalent of finishing first of the group).
Match 4 : Match 1 Loser vs Match 2 Loser : the loser of this match is eliminated from the competition (it's the equivalent of finishing last of the group).

Week 3 :
Match 5 : Match 3 Loser vs Match 4 Winner : the loser is eliminated (3rd of the group), the winner is qualified for playoff (2nd of the group).

Here are the main things :
- The groupstages phase is still 3 weeks, it won't change the scheduling organisation if that system is adopted.
- During the "Groups" phase, 2 wins and you're qualified, 2 loses and you're eliminated. It's simply as hell, and your results depend on anybody but you, as long as you win.
- You will noticed that every match need a winner, there is no draw possible : each match is played in a Bo3 (means that there is a 3rd map decider if it's necessary). This is more interesting for the players as well as the viewers.
- This work for both 16teams d1 and 8teams d1, all we need is 4-team groups, and that's what we have actually in every UZ league.

Hope you'll enjoy it. I personnaly discovered this system by watching the CS main competitions ... and truly, that's really interesting to see and play.


Last edited by Sasuke on Sun Feb 02, 2014 2:23 pm; edited 1 time in total

Re: Suggestion : D1 Cup using GSL style

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 6:12 pm
Author: SevenofNine
I also enjoy watching this a lot on various twitch streams, good idea sasuke, and thanks for your input.
I don't know if our Competition Management System allows it, and of course other admins will also have to agree Smile

Re: Suggestion : D1 Cup using GSL style

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 9:25 pm
Author: Encuber Location: France/spain
That is a good idea shoushou

Re: Suggestion : D1 Cup using GSL style

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 11:03 pm
Author: Kendle
- SevenofNine

I don't know if our Competition Management System allows it


It does, 4, 8, 16, 32 and 64 team double elimination is standard in the system already.

Re: Suggestion : D1 Cup using GSL style

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 11:49 pm
Author: SevenofNine
K didn't check Smile

Re: Suggestion : D1 Cup using GSL style

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 12:03 am
Author: Suicide
Its a really good idea Smile

Re: Suggestion : D1 Cup using GSL style

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 3:29 am
Author: La$er
Gsl is great

Re: Suggestion : D1 Cup using GSL style

Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 7:19 pm
Author: Sasuke Location: Paris
Any feedbacl from admins ? Season is soon.

Re: Suggestion : D1 Cup using GSL style

Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 7:59 pm
Author: SevenofNine
Ok first of all reality check, even if we are going to do this, it'll never be for this season.
There is one issue with this, and that has all to do with the player base we have in Urban Terror, unplayed matches happen quite often. In this system it would derail all of the other teams. Granted this is more interesting to watch as a viewer, but as an organizer (without a serious playerbase *sorry*) this could become a living hell. But I'm open for discussion Smile

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