Hello everyone
As everyone know Team france respect rules as hell, so its time to take responsibility for not respecting rules:
Session Start: Mon Feb 08 16:26:11 2016
Session Ident: sC`Sailor`off
(16:26:15) (BrTk``) sC`Sailor`off Hello, are you here?
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(16:34:13) • sC`Sailor`off is now known as sC`SailorMoon
(16:34:23) (sC`SailorMoon) hi
(16:34:30) (BrTk``) yoyoyo
(16:34:40) (BrTk``) TEAM POLAND REQUEST DEMOS: Team Poland vs Team France = Biddle : 1st, 2nd half ut4_turnpike, 1st half ut4_tohunga_b8, Full demo of Bender, 1 min missing from Zmb (Turnpike), Team France vs Team NL missing demo of shanfara from turnpike
(16:34:49) (sC`SailorMoon) noted
(16:34:51) (BrTk``) we're requesting missing demos
(16:34:57) (sC`SailorMoon) I understand
(16:35:05) (sC`SailorMoon) I'm going to pm team france
so team France had 72 hours (11.02.16 16:34) to upload missing demos.
I've made screenshot at 17:43 11.02.2016 and Shanfara still didn't put his demo on UZL:
PROOF: screenshooter.net/102755404/famlpcs
Rules of NationsCup XIX
3.8 Both national teams may request and review the demos from the opponent but they must also explain their reasons for doing so. Supervisors have to be informed before and the request must be within 72 hours after the official match time.
3.9 If a national team fails to provide the requested demos, if some of the requested demos are broken or if rounds are missing, a forfeit loss will be awarded against the national team who failed to provide the requested demos. If both national teams fail to provide the requested demos, the match will be set as a double-forfeit, as both national teams have violated the rules.
5.3 A national team that forfeits a group match for the second time will be removed from the Cup.
Team France didn't upload demos in 72hours of my request, so:
-Match PL vs FR should be forfeited 2-0 to PL Team
-Match NL vs FR should be forfeited 2-0 for missing demo in requested 72 hours
-Admins, if they're respecting NC rules should put 2 forfeits to Team France for not uploading requested demos.
-Admins have to remove team France from nationcup, because 2 forfeits = out of event ofc as rules said.
Actually:
-Shanfara uploaded demo vs NL after requested 72 hours.
-Bender sent broken demo in match PL vs FR
-Zmb didn't upload 1min 5sec of first half ut4_turnpike in requested 72 hours.
Waiting on disqualifications Team France from Nationcup for not respecting rules.
Don't change the rules, because I've made screenshots of it.
P.S: I'm not unpleasant, its only my suspicion of cheating by Team France.
P.S2 Team France known that I want to request their demos:
(16:21:34) (BrTk``) TEAM POLAND REQUEST DEMOS: Team Poland vs Team France = Biddle : 1st, 2nd half ut4_turnpike, 1st half ut4_tohunga_b8, Full demo of Bender, 1 min missing from Zmb (Turnpike), Team France vs Team NL missing demo of shanfara from turnpike
(16:22:02) (BrTk``) 16:21
(16:22:29) (BrTk``) so we're waiting to 11.02.16 16:21 to upload requested demos, thanks
(16:22:36) (Biddle) sure
(16:22:57) (BrTk``) Thanks
(16:23:30) (Biddle) can you say it to an other admin too?
(16:23:37) (Biddle) I have no authority in Team France matches
(16:23:44) (Biddle) and don't take any decisions
(16:24:26) (BrTk``) which one admin?
(16:24:43) (Biddle) gostor or sailor
(16:24:46) (BrTk``) oki
Regards BrTk Team Poland Captain
- BrTk`
P.S: I'm not unpleasant, its only my suspicion of cheating by Team France.
I agree, this is not unpleasant, though doing this through email directed at the admins would have been more kosher. However the mention about changing rules was unnecessary as this wouldn't happen. The rest of the replies are just troll bait so I'll ignore them.
Just wondering, if your suspicion is cheating and they upload their demo's I suppose it wouldn't be necessary to forfeit if there isn't cheating happening right?
- SailorMoon
AFAIK, France has provided everything they were asked for.
AFAIK you know nothing Jon Snow.
Bender's demo is still missing, Zmb's demo is still broken.
- SailorMoon
we were more flexible in this regard
Why? Is Team France somehow special?
- SailorMoon
Bottom line: they did it in timely manner.
Yeah only 2 weeks late.
- SailorMoon
There's no negative discrimination of Poland.
Yeah, forfeiting maps for a widely known UrT bug is nothing new. So many matches forfeited where someone shot an opponent through doors or grabbed a flag near a wall. I guess it's cool as long as you're a friend of UZ staff... or Gost0r's brother.
Keep believing your conspiracy theories that everyone is against UZ and just fishing for drama. You're doing everything in your power to rig the rules and results to your liking and you're not even trying to hide it. Sotone would be disappointed.
inb4 you're such a troll sze stop lying
4. Missing 1m5s of Zmb's demo - There has been a case where (iirc) <GD> challenged =jF=robk's demo as he was missing 3 minutes - back then (this might be in 2010, old UZ website), no actions were taken as it was clearly a forfeit attempt with no real purpose. So I guess a similar situation applies here too. To quote the rules: "A missing demo is a full demo not recorded or not uploaded. A partial demo is a demo with only a part missing"
Requested to have demo of zmb's, because I suspecting that he's using illegal software and as I can see Urban-zone admins favor Team France and They don't want to be honest in relation to other countries.
Here's the same example as you said about zmb,
in match =jF= vs WaF trick have been used and no one forfeited =jF= for using normal trick.
urban-zone.org/index.p...ture=21224
Admins : If you want to be neutral guys put 2:0 to Team Poland against Team France, because its the same situation like with Zmb, but when someone uploading broken demos its evidence to forfeit match and take the lesson for next time to have full completed demo.
Stop favor your friendzone.
Regards BrTk Team Poland Captain