www.urban-zone.org/ind...ture=10380
I was not at home on sunday afternoon, and this morning at 8.00 I saw the match fixed on Friday...
This is absolutely not fair, because it depends from the one who stays longer in front of the PC to put the latest reschedule. Next time should I wait Sunday 23.59.59 to reschedule the match???
If no agreement has been found you should schedule at default date (Sunday), not at the last one suggested by one of the two teams!
Last year we lost a lot of matches because of this unfair behaviour!
Furthermore rules are different from referee to referee??? See here below the answer I received about a similar matter in CTF:
fixture 10123 (CTF div 11)
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 11:19 am
From: Lebbra
To: BlackSoul
Hi BlackSoul,
Sunday 24.00 deadline is passed, and this match should be fixed to this evening at 21.00 as per UZ rules. Can you please fix it?
www.urban-zone.org/ind...ture=10123
tnx.
Re: fixture 10123 (CTF div 11)
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 12:59 pm
From: BlackSoul
To: Lebbra
No i cant fix it cause if the other dont accept i have to fix it for deadline Sunday 21:00. So you have to talk to them about Date and Time and tell me
So it seems that:
If I ignore the scheduling, never suggesting a date, even if the opponent team suggest some dates, I can be sure that the match will be placed on default date.
If I suggest some date, but I'm not the latest one to reschedule, I must accept the last rescheduled date????
if it is not a mistake of one of the two referee, it is completely crazy!
In my opinion (and in everybody common sense) it should be:
1) If no teams suggest a schedule the match will be fixed at default date
2) If both teams suggest some date but there is no agreement before deadline (sunday 23.59.59) the match will be fixed at default date
3) If just one team suggest some date and the other don't care to reply, the match will be fixed at the suggested date.
It seems logic, isn't it?
- Lebbra
If I suggest some date, but I'm not the latest one to reschedule, I must accept the last rescheduled date????
Not quite.
For each match 1 team is considered the "home" team and the other the "away" team. Each team is the home team and the away team an equal number of times throughout the season (depending on number of teams in the division of course, i.e. if there are an odd number of matches to be played you'll be home, or away, 1 more time than the other).
For each match the "home" team gets the last say in the rescedule process, so for half the matches this season YOU will get the last say, for the other half the other team will get the last say. It just so happens for this match you're the "away" team.
I don't know if this is in keeping with UZ rules, but that's how the software works.
The alternative would have be to allow an infinite number of reschedules and then the admin forces a date if the 2 teams can't agree, which is also possible with the software, but not how it's currently configured.
- xandaxs
Teams are also only allowed to reschedule a match 3 times..
Wasn't that the problem?
It should be 6, according to the league settings. If it's not allowing 6 let me know, could be a bug.
- SevenofNine
Though im sure you'll get an official reply, I would really like to stress this scheduling is just an option for you guys to do it without intervention of a referee/admin...
TALK to your opponents, contact them, this way of scheduling is so unsociable!
SevenofNine, of course the first thing to do is to contact the opponent team and find a common agreement.
All I wrote above concern a situation where it was not possible to get in touch with opponents and/or we are not able to found an agreement.
Consider also that people has a real life also, and cannot spent a lot of time in looking for the opponents through the whole web. Because of that the scheduling system is very useful (if well used).
The points 1, 2, 3 I suggested in my previous post are not only logic, but also easy to respect and easy to be controlled by an admin. All that admins have to do in such a case is, (after deadline is passed) to check only the open matches and:
- fix them at the suggested date if there is just one scheduling
- fix them at the default date if there are zero or more than one scheduling
It is not only "common sense compliant", but also faster for admins that don't waste time to listen complaints as mine.
BTW the "6 rescheduling option" doesn't solve the problem, because the team who place the 6th reschedule will decide the date, even if opponents was not agree...
The home/away rule is not only unknown to all but webmaster, but also very complicate and meaningless, because in UrT home or away make no great differences on the game itself.