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What about weekly map pools for next season?

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Re: What about weekly map pools for next season?

Post Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 9:49 pm

Perhaps you should make some turbofun weekly map pools for lower divisions only? I've noticed mostly those pub players like to play "different" maps.

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Re: What about weekly map pools for next season?

Post Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 11:13 pm

You don't need to add random maps. This is how a "weekly map pool" would look if we were on ClanBase times:

Week 1: Abbey - Austria - Beijing - Tohunga_b8
Week 2: Beijing - Casa - Cambridge - Sanc
Week 3: Algiers - Orbital - Prague - Mandolin
Week 4: Turnpike - Thingley - Kingdom_rc6 - Uptown (It wasn't a TS map on CB -at least not in 4.1- but well)
Week 5: Orbital - Casa - Austria - Tohunga_b8

If you're planning on adding randomasfuck maps please keep it the way it is now. Veto for playoff stage works perfectly.

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Re: What about weekly map pools for next season?

Post Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 10:47 am

weekly map pool sounds very interesting +1

Asvp
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Re: What about weekly map pools for next season?

Post Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 11:12 am

I wonder why the idea is interesting? I'm a big fan of custom/diverse maps but your clans already have the possibility to choose a "different" map and it rarely/never happens. What would be the benefit of forcing it?
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Re: What about weekly map pools for next season?

Post Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 12:31 pm

- SevenofNine
What would be the benefit of forcing it?

Bad teams getting lucky draws because no sane person would practice those maps before official matches xd

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Re: What about weekly map pools for next season?

Post Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 12:34 pm

- Arexo
You don't need to add random maps. This is how a "weekly map pool" would look if we were on ClanBase times:

Week 1: Abbey - Austria - Beijing - Tohunga_b8
Week 2: Beijing - Casa - Cambridge - Sanc
Week 3: Algiers - Orbital - Prague - Mandolin
Week 4: Turnpike - Thingley - Kingdom_rc6 - Uptown (It wasn't a TS map on CB -at least not in 4.1- but well)
Week 5: Orbital - Casa - Austria - Tohunga_b8

If you're planning on adding randomasfuck maps please keep it the way it is now. Veto for playoff stage works perfectly.


But do you get to pick a map or do you have to eliminate 2 maps and play the remaining 2. Huge difference right there.

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Re: What about weekly map pools for next season?

Post Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 2:51 pm

- Vrederust
- Arexo
You don't need to add random maps. This is how a "weekly map pool" would look if we were on ClanBase times:

Week 1: Abbey - Austria - Beijing - Tohunga_b8
Week 2: Beijing - Casa - Cambridge - Sanc
Week 3: Algiers - Orbital - Prague - Mandolin
Week 4: Turnpike - Thingley - Kingdom_rc6 - Uptown (It wasn't a TS map on CB -at least not in 4.1- but well)
Week 5: Orbital - Casa - Austria - Tohunga_b8

If you're planning on adding randomasfuck maps please keep it the way it is now. Veto for playoff stage works perfectly.


But do you get to pick a map or do you have to eliminate 2 maps and play the remaining 2. Huge difference right there.


According to me, you will have to pick. If there are some forced maps each week you should, at least, be able to choose the one you want to play.
In the case both team took the same one, they can find a agreement or juste do a cut to eliminate to determine the seconde map.
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Re: What about weekly map pools for next season?

Post Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 3:50 pm

if we win more points because it's not us map its will be verry good but no if u know u win vs one team ez on austria why playing on tohunga

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Re: What about weekly map pools for next season?

Post Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 3:14 pm

stlr - the NA community died because its players were much older in general than all of you euro kiddies, not because NA leagues were worse than EU leagues. Just ask joram or mauri if they thought so.

The only people who are voting no to this are people who only perform well on one or two maps (i.e. anyone in b00bs, tp only players, etc.). I'm not a huge fan of eliminating maps because you are more likely to play a shit map that neither team wants to play with that system as teams tend to eliminate their opponents' strongest maps first.

p.s. this only applies to TS because most CTF maps are shit and a forced system wouldn't work

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Re: What about weekly map pools for next season?

Post Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 3:43 pm

The main problem about reduced mapool for each week is that you can be fuck by being unlucky. During the last Clanbase competition, KoS had a mandatory win against b00bs on Uptown in order to go to the playoffs.
Considering how homogeneous the skill level was last season (the teams who made it threw the final had a hard time in playoffs ... in fact, Jack most probably wouldn't have made it if myth team was 5 during their match), I don't think it's good to make a luck-related map pick system.

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Re: What about weekly map pools for next season?

Post Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 4:13 pm

- Vrederust
- Arexo
You don't need to add random maps. This is how a "weekly map pool" would look if we were on ClanBase times:

Week 1: Abbey - Austria - Beijing - Tohunga_b8
Week 2: Beijing - Casa - Cambridge - Sanc
Week 3: Algiers - Orbital - Prague - Mandolin
Week 4: Turnpike - Thingley - Kingdom_rc6 - Uptown (It wasn't a TS map on CB -at least not in 4.1- but well)
Week 5: Orbital - Casa - Austria - Tohunga_b8

If you're planning on adding randomasfuck maps please keep it the way it is now. Veto for playoff stage works perfectly.


But do you get to pick a map or do you have to eliminate 2 maps and play the remaining 2. Huge difference right there.


Obviously you will pick your home map. This map pool has 2 known maps per week + 2 very playable.
I was one of the ClanBase refs that suggested the idea and it worked really well back then, but again if you start to add 'random as fuck' aka pub maps, nobody will like it. For Wave CTF it won't work tho.

- bzegs
stlr - the NA community died because its players were much older in general than all of you euro kiddies, not because NA leagues were worse than EU leagues. Just ask joram or mauri if they thought so.

mauri, joram, magnesium, xai, saidex, m0rtal, holtes, hemp, slayer, brizz, taki, zmb, piotras, cxo, shans, etc.

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Re: What about weekly map pools for next season?

Post Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 12:13 am

- bzegs
The only people who are voting no to this are people who only perform well on one or two maps

If only... half of the "no" votes are also from double accounts.
The vote result is quite irrelevant.

Would taking in account only the team leaders' votes be a fair way to go ?
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Re: What about weekly map pools for next season?

Post Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 12:51 pm

I already denied and closed the topic.



~~~~~~~~~~~~~+Threat closed again+~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Re: What about weekly map pools for next season?

Post Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 1:26 pm

Tohunga
Orbital_sl
Casa
Austria
Kingdom_RC6
Abbey
Sanctuary
Turnpike
Prague

These are the 9 best maps for TS (and the ones what you can practice on PCWs). Uptown in my opionion should be banned (38 signups for TS season 20 and only b00bs like it, impossible to practice and unfair to 37 teams).

We can use on Groups Stage the same elimination system that is used on playoffs . And to avoid complications like that one on UZ final between -h5 vs #jack (server that will be used because ping difference and lack of fairplay), a pistol round with all 5 players in a predefined map (no nades and medkit allowed) sounds more interesting than a knife round. The winner ban 4 maps, the loser ban 3 maps.

In playoffs, same thing, except that 3rd map should be picked by the team who had better campaign on Groups Stage (if we have equal campaigns, who had more rounds diff in the first 2 maps should pick the map. No repeated maps as well).

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Re: What about weekly map pools for next season?

Post Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 1:31 pm

F1 to pistol rounds also the maps listed by blade are so gud except mb sanctuary

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