I always misclick on the reschedule lol, game Sunday 21:30 CET.

Shedduled

URBAN ZONE FU YOU ADMIN ONLY CHANGE REGLE BOLOSS

biddle t vraiment une merde qui suce bien zmb on a fait un match contre les pwc aca et rocket il sont jouer ta rien dit maintenant tu parle. vraiment votre competition de fdp pu sa mere a cause d admins comme toi sale boloss

Last night we had the right to play Rocket and Slide at the same time because Rocket was transferred on June 1 in the z warriors.

- in the rules : "Each team is allowed a unique transfer during the whole cup." so Rocket was transferred once.
- "a new player has to be on roster 24 hours before match time." Rocket was transferred to the z warriors on 1st June.. and in the rule of the transfer that can play only the next turn is also possible since we are June 10, so more than a week.

+1 Liamsi +1 sachka

- "Xenon"

URBAN ZONE FU YOU ADMIN ONLY CHANGE REGLE BOLOSS

t un tueur toi bilaye

On dirait toi qui parle anglais, ferme ta bouche

salty frenchies

read the rules, play by the rules and you will not have any problem

Lex retro non agit

+ (according to screens)

rocket,aca and slide cant play at same time

they didnt xd

it means 2 of the 3, They're only allowed to use 1 per map

Rule says that 2 pro-cup players are allowed in a match as long as they are coming from two different clans

aca, rocket and slide were all z2x this season
rocket joined zaguas at the beginning of playoffs, doesn't make him any less z2x this season.

Rule says that 2 pro-cup players are allowed in a match as long as they are coming from two different clans

Before the match it was not written that the players must come from two different teams so stop saying shit. This rule was added after the match, so it should not affect a previously played match but only the following ones. Next time you will tell us before the start of the match.. so see you and thanks to have played against us.

The transfers and rules did not say that we did not have the right to play two pro-cup players who were playing on the same team at the same time before, so we were not wrong to let Rocket and Slide play and Rocket and Aca.

- "Zmbiie"

Rule says that 2 pro-cup players are allowed in a match as long as they are coming from two different clans

- "Rule"

but teams are allowed to have 2 Pro Cup players, coming from a different Pro Cup team, playing at the same time

at the same time =/= match (NC XX Precedent )

and they didnt play with 3 pro cup players at the same time

BLABLA

rocket zagua slide z2x and aca

Anyway the rule says that :

"There will be no more transfers during playoffs, but teams are allowed to have 2 Pro Cup players, coming from a different Pro Cup team, playing at the same time"

I'm coming from "z warriors" (not z warriors AND z2x, I do not play for 2 pro cup teams, or am I ?).
As soon as the transfer is done, I should be considered as a "z warriors" and not as a "z2x" anymore.
Seems like I'm in 2 differents pro cup team when it suits you.

EDIT : Even in fun cup there's drama for a rule that is not clear enough.

The cup is not fun from the moment you have teams that are not fair and especially who does not admit their defeats.

Are you really discussing that we should play again? It's totally unfair to have 2 'pro' players playing at the same time, biddle always told me that in my team I was only allowed to play with only 1 pro in the team. Lets just schedule the match again please. thanks

During the playoffs it is allowed to have 2 pro cup players. We have already played our game and YOU LOST so stop back to ask to play the game again.. accept your fucking defeat and stop trying to put it upside down.

Rules: "There will be no more transfers during playoffs, but teams are allowed to have 2 Pro Cup players, coming from a different Pro Cup team, playing at the same time"

The Horde talk about the rules, even so if you had reason you should refuse to let them play at the precise moment not complain after accept you're lost and don't do such a drama for a game that will be over in less than a month!

Thanks.

Zmb can't handle defeat like he can't handle im better than him,its an old story guys...

True story, as a complete neurtal, if an admin plays in the same match in which he sees the opposing team having too many pro cup players palying. He should let them know it will result in either forfeit or replay.

Also, changing rules after a match should not affect games already played. Imo changing rules mid season seems pretty stupid, unless it is absolutely necessary, which is not the case in this given situation.

Tldr The Horde shouldve let heroic know they werent allowed to play with their line up. Also, changing rules mid season is stupid. Give me admin rights please!

To be fair Zmb did inform them at the start of the first map :/ They were aware (I believe the demo will prove this)

listen to the lawlyer!

who will be GROM opp, anyway both of those teams won't stand a chance against us, it looks like they both want to lose the final ...

Not from the beginning of the match but half time and in all cases the rule is: "There will be no more transfers during the playoffs, but teams are allowed to have 2 Pro Cup players, coming from a different Pro Cup team, playing at the same time"

I kinda enjoyed not being in the middle of UrT drama's lately,
so it is not really smart that I am involving myself now,
but it's my birthday, so excuse me...
And I can't believe I will be on the same side as Zmb, FML!


Sachka> The cup is not fun from the moment you have teams that are not fair +...

Wow, so "fun cup" team using 3 pro cup players in the same match (I know I know, only 2 at the same time/map) is fair to other fun cup teams?
Sachka, I like you as a Big D fellow, but your moral compass is skewed on topic of fairness.


THE ORIGINAL / BEFORE SEASON STARTED RULE IS/WAS
Rules: "There will be no more transfers during playoffs, but teams are allowed to have 2 Pro Cup players, coming from a different Pro Cup team, playing at the same time"


Rocket did play in a team with Slide and Aca in THIS season?
In what universe does it him leaving a team few days ago NOT make him part of the team that he played with in past months of THIS STILL CURRENT SEASON?


And to make it clear for those with cheaper billets, in my opinion, team Horde is in the right here.
And if admins and Horde team allow / want rematch, then I guess that could be good solution.

During this match, 4 Pro Cup players have participated: Aca, Slide, Rocket and Zmbiie.

Rocket- and Slide played at the same time for Heroic, and during map 3: Rocket and ACA.

The rule concerning such a situation is the following:

..teams are allowed to have 2 Pro Cup players, coming from a different Pro Cup team, playing at the same time.

This means that 2 Pro Cup players are allowed during playoffs but they must come from a different team.


What brings up the debate is a point which is not covered with the rule: what about transferred players?

Rocket played the season with z2x and transferred to zAgua for the last 3 games.

Is the whole season to be considered AKA both teams? Is to be only considered his current team? Is only his first team to be considered?

In such a case where a rule can (arguably) lead to various interpretation (exposed above), your first reflex must be to ask a referee or admin. I wasn't available at all on the CW day, nor the following one, until today.


After taking in account all the elements, we discussed the situation with the current staff and have come to a decision.

It was unanimously clear that the rule was for the whole season, like any other rule.

We can't blame you for misunderstanding the rule, but, where we have to blame you is not trying to ask, especially after effectively been asked to do so in game by the opponent team warning you that were breaking a rule.

The Horde warned you about the rule break 9 mins into first map. So from the moment you were aware of such a situation, we can't understand why on map 2 and on map 3 you didn't comply with the rule.

Given that map 2 was actually won by The Horde, changing it to a forfeit loss or leaving it as is doesn't impact the match result.

The only possible options we have for this match are the following:

• a forfeit loss for map 3,
• replay the whole match,
• replay only the third map.

To make that possible we actually grant you an extra week, till Sunday, June 17th to schedule the game.

Rocket played the season with z2x and transferred to zAgua for the last 3 games. Is the whole season to be considered AKA both teams? Is to be only considered his current team? Is only his first team to be considered?

It's exactly like in football (for the case of Rocket), it's a transfer so the results and the player's palmares in the previous team should not be taken into account in the new team. When you go into a business and change to another, do you keep your seniority and your achievements? No .. you start all over again.

In such a case where a rule can (arguably) lead to various interpretation (exposed above), your first reflex must be to ask a referee or admin. I wasn't available at all on the CW day, nor the following one, until today.

During the match Zmb told us that he asked Jenny about the rule (supposedly) .. while going to question Jenny, she answered me saying that he never came to see her (first lie to Zmb). So we read the rule on the site of the urban area between the 1st map and the 2nd and we responded to Zmb that nothing forbids us to play Rocket and Slide at the same time since they both left bottom right now of two different teams.

It was unanimously clear that the rule was for the whole season, like any other rule. We can't blame you for misunderstanding the rule, but, where we have to blame you is not trying to ask, especially after effectively been asked to do so in game by the opponent team warning you that were breaking a rule.

The old rule: "There will be no more transfers during playoffs, but teams are allowed to have 2 Pro Cup players (1), coming from a different Pro Cup team (2), playing at the same time (3)"
1. We actually had a total of 3 Pro Cup players who participated in the match. However, they did not play at the same time but always 2 by 2 on the different maps. So we respected the rule of 2 Pro Cup players playing at the same time. You are going to say that we play with the words etc but at that moment you have to anticipate and make more complete the rule of the playoffs rather than simple line (I base myself according to your say about this rule).
2. The Pro Cup players we played come from different teams except Aca and Slide who are both z2x. Rocket and transfer to the z warriors since the start of the playoffs and in another Cup. Neymar was transferred to PSG is it still part of the selection of top scorers in Spain knowing that he left FC Barcelona? (No) and should the rules of the Pro Cup have effect on the Fun Cup at this time about transfert and more ? (In my opinion, no..).
3. As for the first point, the players (Rocket, Slide and Aca) played 2 by 2 on the different maps and not all at the same time.


On the other hand we criticize a few things is that you have changed the rule just after the game by changing the line "coming from a different Pro Cup team" by "that havn't played for a same PC team" This sentence was changed after the match in order to clearly harm us. These two sentences absolutely do not want to say the same thing and as you said a little earlier, "You were not unanimously clear that you have no right to change the rules during the Cup. We speak of correction from the moment there is for example a fault or a word not adapted and modified by another but it must keep the same meaning.

For starters, who allowed himself to change the rules snugly without informing anyone and then come and show us this one believing we did not know the old ? Nobody came to tell us that the regulation was changed because we did not understand what the old rule stipulated .. So we come back to the fact that it was done so secretly and only after the defeat of the Hordes. We think there is a trash to discredit us between Zmb, Jenny and an Administrator of the Urban Zone site (Since the rules can only be changed by an Administrator).

Show us the discussions about this change in this sentence and also the logs with the name of the person who modified the rule and at that moment we will see to talk about the match. Before coming to reproach us, start by doing things properly and say the truth and especially stop coming out of the rules that you have invented and which are not in the current regulations.

We want to know the truth about the modification of the regulation, we ask the administrators to sanction these facts because some people have taken the ease to try to harm us by modifying the regulation of the playoffs.

Quenelle over 9000

- "Biddle"

During this match, 4 Pro Cup players have participated: Aca, Slide, Rocket and Zmbiie.

Rocket- and Slide played at the same time for Heroic, and during map 3: Rocket and ACA.

The rule concerning such a situation is the following:

..teams are allowed to have 2 Pro Cup players, coming from a different Pro Cup team, playing at the same time.

This means that 2 Pro Cup players are allowed during playoffs but they must come from a different team.


What brings up the debate is a point which is not covered with the rule: what about transferred players?

Rocket played the season with z2x and transferred to zAgua for the last 3 games.

Is the whole season to be considered AKA both teams? Is to be only considered his current team? Is only his first team to be considered?

In such a case where a rule can (arguably) lead to various interpretation (exposed above), your first reflex must be to ask a referee or admin. I wasn't available at all on the CW day, nor the following one, until today.


After taking in account all the elements, we discussed the situation with the current staff and have come to a decision.

It was unanimously clear that the rule was for the whole season, like any other rule.

We can't blame you for misunderstanding the rule, but, where we have to blame you is not trying to ask, especially after effectively been asked to do so in game by the opponent team warning you that were breaking a rule.

The Horde warned you about the rule break 9 mins into first map. So from the moment you were aware of such a situation, we can't understand why on map 2 and on map 3 you didn't comply with the rule.

Given that map 2 was actually won by The Horde, changing it to a forfeit loss or leaving it as is doesn't impact the match result.

The only possible options we have for this match are the following:

• a forfeit loss for map 3,
• replay the whole match,
• replay only the third map.

To make that possible we actually grant you an extra week, till Sunday, June 17th to schedule the game.

Very nice explaination

WHOSE FAULT IS IT ? xenon hahaha

pathetic...

simple and direct the 3rd map will be playing tonight 21h 21h30 22h

simple and direct, match was scheduled yet so you don't get to choose or force a date.

mdr you cry ?

Is it allowed to connect more than 3 times during a game and staying in spec for over than 1 minute? and also going to our team? wtf

We had several timeouts and Xenon made the mistake of clicking on the wrong team by wanting to connect quickly to lose as little time as possible. In any case you have won several rounds so it was to your advantage and you can not tell us otherwise. On this we should have kept the same result instead of replaying the match .. see you in Ressurgence.

Really easy game against Zmb,completly wast of time

will see

gg zzz